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Here’s How Governments Legally Steal Babies

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July 10, 2012 in Health

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Ever wonder what gives a government agency the right to take children from their parents, even though the child hasn’t really been mistreated? What gives them the right to vaccinate or force-medicate kids without parental consent? Or what gives them to right to tell you how to raise your child or force them to go to state-run schools?

Well, the real answer to those questions is – you do. But before we get into the nitty gritty, I’ll say this:

The following is not legal or medical advice. It’s something I learned and decided to share.

So now that that’s out of the way, lets get to the good stuff…

So mum-to-be is in labour. The glorious moment is close at hand so she is rushed to the maternity ward at a hospital, the baby is born and in a day or two mom and her new bundle of joy is discharged from the hospital with a few forms to fill out and send in to apply for a birth certificate. It all seems fine and dandy on the surface, but what goes on in the legal processes beneath the surface is an entirely different story.

In most countries where hospitals are state-run — or medical staff, midwives, medics, etc. are state-licensed — when a pregnant woman goes to them for help in giving birth to her baby, she falls under the states legal jurisdiction. She is entering into a contract, applying for, and submitting both herself and her unborn baby to their care, automatically becoming temporary wards of the state. Once the child is born and it is determined that both are healthy enough to go home, both mother and child are discharged with the mother being appointed by the state as the child’s legal guardian.

So lets look up and/or link to the legal definitions of some of the words above and what those definitions really mean.

When you apply for anything from the government, you automatically fall under their “legal jurisdiction” which simply means you’re bound by their interpertations and definitions of the words in their legislation, and you have given them the power to force you to comply or punish you for not complying – it’s called enforcement.

When the mom-to-be walks into the hospital or calls a doctor, ambulance, midwife, etc. to assist in the birth, she is applying to them. To “apply” means “To submit oneself as a candidate for” or to beg. So she is submitting herself to them. And the word “submit” is derived from the Latin word submittō which means to “place under, or yield. In doing so, her and her unborn child become “wards” of the state, under their care and guardianship, and bound by their legal jurisdiction.

A fit mother has a duty to care for her child until the child is old enough to take care of themselves. As a temporary ward of the state, it is presumed that the mother needing care no longer has the capacity for rights and duties, so since a child needs care until they are old enough to care for themsleves, the state takes over the rights and duties of the mother.

When the state or state licensed care provider deems the mother and child to be healthy and able to leave, they are both discharged from care and the state appoints the mother as temporary guardian of their ward, the child. However, the state doesn’t give up their rights to the child like the mother did. At any time between when the mother submitted to the state and when the child turns 18 and becomes an adult, the state can order their appointed guardian, the mother, to do what they want (spelled out in acts, statutes, bylaws, conditions, etc.).

Also, since they have ultimate rights to the child who is still their ward, they don’t need the permission of the guardian to care for the child how they see fit. And if the guardian that they appointed doesn’t do what they say, they can remove guardianship from the mother and appoint themselves or someone else – like someone at a foster home – as the legal guardian of the child.

The above is quite complicated but the ghist of it is this – When you asked for and accepted help from the state, they presumed you thought you were unfit to care for yourself and gave up both your own rights and your rights to the child. Then they kept the rights to the child and appointed you the guardian of their rightful property.

The state’s legal jurisdiction works on the basis of presumption and consent. They presume you know exactly what you’re getting into when you beg them for help, as well as all the nuances and implications involved.

Is it legal for them to do this sort of thing? Yes, as long as they stay within the boundaries of their own definitions and interpertations of the language they’re governed by. What they are doing may or may not be lawful, though, and that’s a story for many more posts to come.

The above article was first published on my blog here – http://paulshort.com/legalized-corruption/heres-how-governments-legally-steal-babies


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15 responses to Here’s How Governments Legally Steal Babies

  1. Tom said on July 13, 2012

    All human beings are born free, you do not become property of the government because you parents used a government sanctioned hospital or asked the government for something. It has nothing to do with all capital letters or straw men. Read their ( the government of the united stated ) rule book. You were NOT born a citizen of the united states, the 13th amendment of the constitution says “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.” Simply, involuntary servitude is forbidden in the United States. The 14th amendment says “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” Simply you must be “under the jurisdiction thereof” to be a citizen under government control. If involuntary servitude is forbidden, and being under “the jurisdiction thereof” is servitude, we must volunteer. Because you parents may volunteer them self to be citizens does not mean , they can not volunteer there child into citizenship by there actions. I like you have searched for the answers, I have read all the patriot beliefs and theories. All the time is was in plain English the 13th and 14th amendments. A new born child or a grown adult must volunteer to be a citizen, it in there rules. There in the 14th amendment in between the comas “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof ” you must volunteer!

  2. Meet Your Strawman! covers his too…and kids can get it in cartoon form…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME7K6P7hlko

  3. I’m not a lawyer but this is my thoughts on it.

    So in conjunction with this article, that would make the state as 2nd or 3rd party rights holder both financially and legally liable for said products (child) which is inferred in part by the title of ownership. And if so, that would in turn make the state (Gov) grossly negligent by title for failing to provide its part in the financial upkeep of said product (child). Therefore, like a dead beat dad the state failed to perform its obligative duties inferred by rights of title. One can argue the 2nd or 3rd party rights holder not only neglected their duties inferred by title rights, but willfully and knowingly hinder the ability of initial right holder (parents) through unjust mean (taxation).

    I would also like to add the gross and mal intent in which the contractual obligation was enter on to, and the misrepresentation of goods and services. During the pregnancy process both parents can arguably under duress and is acknowledge by the state through its numerous programs implement concern post partum depression.

    Also the misrepresentations of contract which is presented as medical paper work and registration to the initial parties (The Parent) is intently mislabeled to mislead the initial party indicating fraudulent nature of which and diminishes the enforceability of the contract. Further more the initial parties are unaware they are entering onto a contract, nor are they informed.

    And in addition to, the acting agency which is performing the services (birth) is therefore fraudulently billing the initial parties when the state (Gov) assumes the reasonability of mother and child. The state (Gov) is there by financially responsible for the cost of which by assume rights of the initial parties.

    By the state (Gov) failing to forfeit their right, it make the state (Gov) and the acting agency which performing the services (birth) guilty of misrepresenting and incorrectly billing the cost incurred by and for the product(s) (the child or children).

    The states fraudulently assume right is the most inhuman unconstitutional act, and violates the constitutional rights of every American from birth.

    In short I think this is a national civil suite for and by every American who has had a child in this country.

  4. While this is definitely a good exercise to make someone realize how much the government is in our lives but the Strawman theory is just Patriot mythology and a distraction. There is no actual Income Tax law on the books but they will still come seize your property at gunpoint if you don’t pay it. THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT. Try arguing that in court and the Judge won’t even waste time on you. They are even beginning to classify it as “paper terrorism” so don’t expect them to recognize you as outside the system because you were born at home or didn’t get a SSN or something. They do what they want.

    ARREST THE BANKERS.

  5. To start out with, your parents due to their prior birth registration were already considered being registered documented vessels/mentally incompetent wards of the State, being under the guardianship of the State, who by legal marriage, where the State is a third party to the marriage contract, had an offspring/ward which they brought into this world by delivery[1], the act by which the res the subject matter of a trust, or substance thereof was placed within the actual or constructive possession or control of another in the delivery room of the maternity ward of the hospital, the port of entry for vessels/wards. Then they asked your mother for your legal name[2] in Upper Lower case which consists of one Christian name and one surname which is the name on the RECORD OF LIVE BIRTH written in upper and lowercase letters. What your mother was not told is that she delivered you to an agent/licensed doctor of the State, in a federally funded hospital, an act by which the res[3] the subject matter of a trust or substance thereof was placed within the actual or constructive possession or control of another, the State, for which in equity they created a Certificate of Live Birth with the all CAPITAL LETTERS and recorded that warehouse receipt in the commercial registry as cargo under transportation.

    The hospital documented your birth with the legal name Title[4] in a distinctive style or appellation, Upper Lower case, the name by which anything is known, and because under trust law whenever title or money is transferred, a trust is created by operation of law, representing you, for which they created a CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH in all CAPITAL LETTERS, which was filed with the local Registrar and registered with the State, via Certificate of registry[5], in commercial maritime law which is a certificate of registration of a vessel according to the registry acts, for the purpose of giving her a national character i.e. U.S. citizen born in a federal zone, hospital zip code, in the judicial district in which the birthing of the vessel occurred identified by the filing with the Florida State Department of Health, Office of Vital Statistics within 5 days after your delivery, and then sent to Washington, D.C., for which the hospital receives a check for that vessel.

    Then the local registrar issued your parents a copy of the warehouse receipt for the cargo, the CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH from the State of Florida in all CAPITAL LETTERS, representing a vessel/ward of the State representing the abandonment of your title by registration. The State of Florida the Creator/Trustor then created a Cestui que trust (constructive trust) behind your back after the fact, with the all Upper Lower case name, and placed a value on it, based on actuarial estimates of your future labor/human resource. Then they issued a Bond against the trust’s asset, a certificate of indebtedness[6] and funded the bond through the IMF based on your future earnings from your labor as the contributing beneficiary, which is a trust asset, and set up a Federal Reserve account for the same. So now the IMF has a beneficial interest in and out of the trust estate, the legal title is now vested with the State of Florida, and held by the Alien Property Custodian in Washington, D.C.; equitable title copy of CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH held by you representing equity/labor; the Governor acting as the managing fiduciary trustee; the Secretary of State Registrar acting as fiduciary trustee until you turn of legal age; and you acting as fiduciary trustee for the trust with duties and obligations once you turn of legal age, and the Secretary of Treasury in charge of the Federal Reserve account.

    That ward/vessel is a now a Vessel of the United States, documented by registration under the laws of the United States and subject to its laws and jurisdiction, and the Title goes to the Alien Property Custodian in Washington, D.C. In a maritime in rem action, jurisdiction over the person of the “defendant”, the vessel, is premised upon the presence of the vessel within the district in which the court sits. The only vessel they have jurisdiction over is the trust, that is evidenced by the CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH, establishing the three points of jurisdiction NAME, SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER and DATE OF BIRTH, the Federal Reserve account under the supervision of the Secretary of the Treasury who is also the managing trustee for the Social Security Administration and governor for the IMF.

    Up until you turned of legal age to work, the deputy Registrar on behalf of the Registrar/ Secretary of State, or the Registrar/Secretary of State whichever signed the CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH has been the fiduciary trustee for that trust created behind your back and securitized where the government owns it in part and you own it in part. Meaning the Registrar had the fiduciary duty and obligation for that Trust up until you started your first job. That is why the State can take the child away from the parents, because it is the duty and obligation of the fiduciary trustee as guardian, to look after the ward, and make sure he or she is taken care of properly.

    When you filled out the Application Form SS-5 for a Social Security Card, the Registrar turned over the duty and obligation of the fiduciary trustee over to you, because he did not want to be responsible as fiduciary for anything you do in commerce using that SS Card/number. You then became the contributing beneficiary and fiduciary trustee for that trust with the duties and obligations for filing and paying the licensing taxes, registration taxes, and taxes on profits, gains and income generated for the trust once it starts to operate in commerce with a Social Security Card/number on all commercial transactions, because you on behalf of the beneficial owner “the trust”, which is resident within a territory occupied by military forces with which the United States is at war, or a resident outside the United States, for which you are considered an enemy doing business with a license and tax identifying number for the purposes “of trade” effectively connected with the conduct of a trade or business within said territory for which you are granted a license under the authority of the President pursuant to the Trading with the Enemy Act, as an enemy in order to trade, or attempt to trade with the enemy for the beneficial owner the “trust”, and as the fiduciary trustee paying, satisfying, compromising, or giving security for the payment or satisfaction of any debt or obligation, and for drawing, accepting, paying, presenting for acceptance or payment, or indorsing any negotiable instrument or chose in action on behalf of the trust.
    http://www.stopthepirates.blogspot.com

  6. Keep up the good work. . . the legal language is huge in today’s world.

    Quick note. .did you know that a district court judge has no legal authority to make a judgement or ruling on anything except. . . .this one thing. . . whether or not the law has appeared to be followed. If he deems the law was followed as written any argument of evidence or legality is NOT taken into account.
    One must get their case into the Circuit Court in order to garner a judgement as to the evidence and whether wrong doing occured and to what and who is at fault. FAULT is never and can’t even be brought up in a District Court case.

    Just thought that may interest you. I have studied mostly forelcosure and band fraud. . .LMAO

  7. The question we need to ask then is How do we nullify their presumed consent that they think they have. Can it be done verbally, does it need to be sent as a letter to the President or Prime Minister of your country, as like it or not, every country with a private central bank and registration of birth process is under this system. Is it a statute law, does a mother on entering a hospital need to state that in coming these she in no ways gives the practitioner duristiction over her, should she take an advocate with her who she has imbued with her rights if she needs to and not the state?? In other words, this needs to be nullified, their lies need to be exposed and everyone needs to do this and explain to people about this.

  8. I wished that I did not have first hand experience with CPS taking children, but I do, my son, was taken from our home, by CPS after police illegally broke into our home, my wife thought it was a burglar or home invasion robbery as the pigs did not announce themselves so she took our son into the bedroom and locked the door and called 911 then called me as I was out of town on business. The police , Grover Beach ca PD, Lt Brian Thomas, (search his cursed name, he’s the cop who brew his brains out after it became public and warrants issued for his arrest that he raped his own daughter of 14 who got pregnant by him, raped a woman he picked up from a bar, and more atrocities!) he and his partner broke in, heard my wife screaming to get out that she called 911 and they went straight to her room and kicked the door into her face, breaking her nose and knocking her out, she fell back onto the bed, face down nearly drowning in a pool of her own blood while Thomas knelt down on her head to “subdue” her while the partner handcuffed her, all while our son stood there screaming in tears to “stop hurting mommy!!” I had to listen to this on the phone the whole time it was happening, well long story I’m leaving lots out but it’s all true and the end result? We lost custody of our loving son whom was never abused , was healthy happy and carry well adjusted, yet through the lies of CPS and a
    Vindictive judge who believed a police report filled with lies to protect the illegal things the cops did, terminated our parental rights, and adopted our son away from us….

    • I’m SO sorry for your horrible loss… I’ll keep you in prayer. There may be a way for you to use their own legal principles against them to get your son back. Check this out, I know these people personally and I’ve seen results.
      creditorsincommerce (dot) com

      God Bless

    • ur story completely breaks my heart, ill light a candle for your family. ppl assume the gov always right, we live in a nations of fools. its not real til it happens to them, scarry beyound belief!!

      • Thank you, it cost me everything, my family, my marriage, and all I owned, which I could care less about material possessions but still in order to fight this it cost over 100k not including lost work, they had us jumping through hoops giving us false hope that we could get him back, it got so bad that we had 5 classes per week had to drug test 3 days a week which was random and often conflicted with the parenting classes and work I finally got fired, then my wife had a mental breakdown and tried to commit suicide, she ended up in a state mental hospital when she came out she was a completely different girl, the girl I fell in love with was simply gone, she was like a zombie, only able to feel very base emotions even about our wonderful son, soon after she decided to leave and went to her parents and not long after we got divorced… It’s been 3 years, I have been able to move on, but my son I have not seen in nearly 4 years….
        There must be a God though as for some reason I still have hope that one day we will be reunited. He turned 11 on 11-11-11! Crazy huh? I love and miss him beyond words which is why I do all I can to wake people up to the evil atrocities this govt commits everyday, I have never done drugs btw, cannabis I have used as medicine for damaged nerves instead of pain pills but guess what? CPS told me they don’t recognize CA law prop 215 and I was a drug addict and that I should be taking narcotic pain Meds instead, like I said the story is deep and sickeningly complicated.

  9. then there is the 72 hour period of time that they are supposed to go to court and they never do that after they stole children when they can cheat and use alot of garbage to say they are right and you are wrong
    then they use the phony psych assessment why i say that been there i was going to two colleges at the same time the test is so bogus it is not funny
    then when it got into court you set in the back and see the two psy doctors who are really two nut jobs
    who are comparing their notes and adding it to their report any familiar with committing fraud and lying in court that is illegal not in that type of court system anything goes
    the judge was a total drunk how i know that he was married to a person i went to highschool with the guy was a sorry excuse for a judge when in came to class reunion time i am not never been a violent person have a violent temper though then there is the perfectionist social darwinist worker who is delusional and has a megalamaniact attitude who thinks they are god little g the care taker was telling me that the social worker was and could not be pleased she was going to have her way anyway possible and she did except when the day of judgement comes and she has to report to the creator and he informers her that she is not never going into heaven but has a one way ticket to hell with YESHUAH AS the co creator saying sorry didnt have no compassion you sold your sole and brethern children into slavery and no remorse so the sentence is this damnation for all time
    also this applies to the judges and lawyers and the inbetweens of the govt as well

  10. Yeah and they convince you through shows like “Extreme Births” and whatever else there is out there, which depicts birth as this near-death experience so you BETTER go to the hospital, or die. Even though today we are better fed than ever and could easily have our children naturally without hospital intervention, as well as have access to modern medicine in times of need. I’m studying to be a midwife, so this is a subject that makes me crazy. I can’t remember if it was Iowa or Illinois, but in an American state nonetheless, it is actually illegal for a father to hold his newborn before it is “approved” by a licenced physician. Obviously this is just a theoretical law to set a precident that the hospital owns you no matter what. However, I believe that people can stand up against this just like everything else, just don’t have your baby in a hospital! Or if it is a necessity to be there, you can hire a doula. Homebirth is something both women and men should inform themselves about, because it is a great way to protect yourself and (future) children.

    • @Allyson I have a ton more info I’ve gathered through my research about things like birth certificates, natural persons and artificial persons, etc. that I’ll be writing about on my blog and reposting here.

      You say you’re studying to be a midwife? If you become certified or licensed by the government, you’ll be acting under their legal jurisdiction and mothers and newborns under your care will be wards of the state (gov.). It’s all about the licensing. Once you’re licensed, you’re one of their agents or representatives and by practicing under that license you are ‘funneling’ their power over the mother and child.

      I don’t know the alternative because if I said, practice without a license and someone was harmed under your care you’d be liable. But that is also part of how they force their power on both you and those under your care.

      It’s such a complicated monster, but it’s also our (human beings) fault for letting get this far with their power.

      The devil really is in the details. He’s not some president or health minister set up as a lightning rod to redirect our energy from the truth.

      Quite simply, we need to take back our power by doing things for ourselves and defending the right to do so.

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