Ted Nugent Draft Dodger! – The High Times Interview, admits he dodged the draft, did meth
February 28, 2013 in Activism
Here’s an excerpt from an interview with Ted Nugent that was in the Oct. ’77 issue of High Times (Johnny Rotten cover)
There is a similar interview in the Sept. ’77 Creem magazine (interview with Susan Whitall)
How did you get out of the draft?
“Ted was a young boy, appearing to be a hippie but quite opposite in fact, working hard and playing hard, playing rock and roll like a deviant. People would question my sanity, I played so much. So I got my notice to be in the draft. Do you think I was gonna lay down my guitar and go play army? Give me a break! I was busy doin’ it to it. I had a career Jack. If I was walkin’ around, hippying down, getting’ loaded and pickin’ my ass like your common curs, I’d say “Hey yeah, go in the army. Beats the poop out of scuffin’ around in the gutters.” But I wasn’t a gutter dog. I was a hard workin’, mother****in’ rock and roll musician.
I got my physical notice 30 days prior to. Well, on that day I ceased cleansing my body. No more brushing my teeth, no more washing my hair, no baths, no soap, no water. Thirty days of debris build. I stopped shavin’ and I was 18, had a little scraggly beard, really looked like a hippie. I had long hair, and it started gettin’ kinky, matted up. Then two weeks before, I stopped eating any food with nutritional value. I just had chips, Pepsi, beer-stuff I never touched-buttered poop, little jars of Polish sausages, and I’d drink the syrup, I was this side of death, Then a week before, I stopped going to the bathroom. I did it in my pants. poop, piss the whole shot. My pants got crusted up.
See, I approached the whole thing like, Ted Nugent, cool hard-workin’ dude, is gonna wreak havoc on these imbeciles in the armed forces. I’m gonna play their own game, and I’m gonna destroy ‘em. Now my whole body is crusted in poop and piss. I was ill. And three or four days before, I started stayin’ awake. I was close to death, but I was in control. I was extremely antidrug as I’ve always been, but I snorted some crystal methedrine. Talk about one wounded mother *****. A guy put up four lines, and it was for all four of us, but I didn’t know and I’m vacuuming that poop right up. I was a walking, talking hunk of human poop. I was six-foot-three of sin. So the guys took me down to the physical, and my nerves, my emotions were distraught. I was not a good person. I was wounded. But as painful and nauseous as it was — ’cause I was really into bein’ clean and on the ball — I made gutter swine hippies look like football players. I was deviano.
So I went in, and those guys in uniform couldn’t believe the smell. They were ridiculin’ me and pushin’ me around and I was cryin’, but all the time I was laughin’ to myself. When they stuck the needle in my arm for the blood test I passed out, and when I came to they were kicking me into the wall. Then they made everybody take off their pants, and I did, and this sergeant says, “Oh my God, put those back on! You *****’ swine you!” Then they had a urine test and I couldn’t piss, But my poop was just like ooze, man, so I poop in the cup and put it on the counter. I had poop on my hand and my arm. The guy almost puked. I was so proud. I knew I had these chumps beat. The last thing I remember was wakin’ up in the ear test booth and they were sweepin’ up. So I went home and cleaned up.
They took a putty knife to me. I got the street rats out of my hair, ate some good steaks, beans, potatoes, cottage cheese, milk. A couple of days and I was ready to kick ass. And in the mail I got this big juicy 4-F. They’d call dead people before they’d call my ass. But you know the funny thing about it? I’d make an incredible army man. I’d be a colonel before you knew what hit you, and I’d have the baddest bunch of mother****in’ killers you’d ever seen in my platoon. But I just wasn’t into it. I was too busy doin’ my own thing, you know?”
Submitter’s note: I personally saw several Ted Nugent concerts in the Ann Arbor area in the late 60′s and early 70′s. I saw him drink beer and whisky on stage. I even saw him projectile vomit on stage, over his shoulder during a frenzied guitar solo. I like Ted’s music and his old rock’n'roll attitude. Even the redneck thing was cool. But buddying up to police and drug inforcement after his freaky history is unbelievably hypocritical. Sorry Ted, you ain’t as clean as you now make out!
Ted Nugent has been accused by Dee Snider of being a “draft dodger” who avoided signing up to the army.
“Ted’s always been a gun-toting conservative. But what gets me is that he was actually a draft dodger,” Snider told Noisecreep, “to the point where he didn’t bathe for a week, and vomited on himself to deliberately avoid the draft,” which presumably means the army.”I totally understand why he did that, but all of these Republicans who love Ted don’t seem to know or remember that too well. It’s crazy that he’s become one of the voices of Conservative America even though he was a draft dodger,” added Snider. Whatever the truth is, Snider still thinks most Republican rockers are hypocrites:”It’s mind-numbing how many conservative rock musicians there are now. That’s so convenient when you have a lot of money. ‘Now I have money, so I’m a Republican.’ But when they were broke, struggling musicians, they were liberal and all for sharing the wealth. It’s so convenient.“What do you think of the draft-dodging rumor? Are rich Republican rockers just hypocrites? Share your opinion in the comments.
Dee Snyder is credible, he fought the good fight with Biafra and Zappa against those trying to suppress free speech in music, testifying very intelligently at the 1985 Congressional Hearings on Rock music with Zappa and John Denver.
By Debbie Schlussel http://www.debbieschlussel.com/1503/the-hypocritical-summer-of-ted-nugent/
**** UPDATE More Important Info on Ted Nugent: Ted Nugent Shoulda Been “In Jail or Dead” Long Before Obama: Draft-Dodging Multi-BabyDaddy Child Predator ****
Am I the only one who’s sick and tired of the hypocritical ventings and lecturings of Ted Nugent? Am I the only one who sees through this rocker-with-no-clothing? Are conservatives so desperate for a D-list celebrity that they will overlook all to embrace Ted Nugent? Apparently so.
Today’s Wall Street Journal features an op-ed piece by Nugent, who likes to refer to himself as “Uncle Ted.” The piece, “The Summer of Drugs,” is three columns of Nugent bloviation and braggadocio about how he never did drugs on the rock scene in the ’60s and ’70s (a point a lot of bigger name rockers who toured with him dispute) and what a great moral guy he is because he was not like the rest of the ’60s generation.
Ted Nugent: Portrait of a Hypocrite
All fiction, since Nugent–a Draft Dodger–divorced his wife, used his rock star money to gain sole custody of the kids, lived with a teen groupie who raised the kids (he was too busy touring), cheated on his second wife, Shemane, and had a kid outside of wedlock with Karen Gutowski of New Hampshire, with whom he fought against paying child support for years.
**** UPDATE, 02/17/09: That’s in addition to the two other kids Ted Nugent had out of wedlock with two other different women by the time he turned 21. That’s right. Ted Nugent fathered SEVEN kids with FIVE different women, to which only two of whom he was married. ****
It’s hilarious to read “Uncle Ted” Nugent moralizing to us in the Journal, including these passages, since he’s not exactly the ideal utterer of them:
Turned off by the work ethic and productive American Dream values of their parents, hippies instead opted for a cowardly, irresponsible lifestyle of random sex, life-destroying drugs and mostly soulless rock music that flourished in San Francisco. . . .
A quick study of social statistics before and after the 1960s is quite telling. The rising rates of divorce, high school drop outs, drug use, abortion, sexual diseases and crime, not to mention the exponential expansion of government and taxes, is dramatic. The “if it feels good, do it” lifestyle born of the 1960s has proved to be destructive and deadly.
I agree with all of these things, but can’t hear them coming from Ted Nugent. From him it sounds more like “The Nudge,” instead of another one of his favorite self-monikers, “The Nuge.” It’s too much Nugent saying, “Do as I say, not as I do,” especially since his battle to avoid paying for his illegitimate kid was just two years ago. (Everyone falls for his phony act, though, since Nugent was once named “Father of the Year,” by some ignorant group.)
And here’s how he got out of serving in Vietnam, where many of his fans died fighting. From a July 15, 1990 Detroit Free Press Sunday Magazine profile:
And he is equally proud that the Michigan Legislature this year proclaimed him a “wholesome, traditional” man of “honesty, integrity, loyalty and patriotism.”
But Nugent wanted no part of Vietnam. He claims that 30 days before his draft board physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days, he ingested nothing but Vienna sausages and Pepsi; and a week before his physical, he stopped using bathrooms altogether, virtually living inside pants caked with his own excrement, stained by his urine.
That spectacle won Nugent a deferment, he says, although the Free Press was unable to verify his draft status.
“The men who went should be applauded, but if I would have gone over there, I’d have been killed, or I’d have killed all the hippies in the foxholes . . . I would have killed everybody.” [DS: In other words, let them do the job for me, while I rock and lounge over here in safety. Whatever, Ted.]
WITH HIS WORRIES ABOUT THE draft out of the way — “I never heard from them again” — Nugent focused on his band.
And don’t forget this from the New York Post in 2004:
Courtney Love phoned into The Howard Stern Show on Monday (March 22) before eventually coming into the studio where she made the shocking allegation that one of the first times she had oral sex was with Ted Nugent. She said she was young and she didn’t want to say exactly how old she was, but eventually confessed she was 12-year-old – which would have made Nugent approximately 28 years old at the time. The New York Post attempted to contact Nugent for a response but was unsuccessful. Moderators at Nugent’s official forum deleted the only thread asking about the topic as evidenced by the forum’s search giving a file not found error for the matched thread. She added it was a long time ago and she didn’t even have breasts yet.
Ted Nugent also likes to call himself “the Motor City Madman” (he has a lot of bloated, self-important nicknames). But Ted Nugent moralizing to the rest of America as if he’s the opponent–instead of the embodiment–of ’60s morality doesn’t have a thing to do with the Motor City. It’s just plain Mad.